This article is NOT a substitute for Articles 14, 14A, 15A, 15B, 15E, 17, 18. This article is to be used in addition to those articles. >>> I WANT YOU to read ALL OF these articles ...and more ....!!! You may also want to refer to one of the articles on the Airhead Voltage Regulators, etc. Description of the Charging System:
The BMW Airhead charging system is the same; with only modest variations, on ALL models from the introduction of the 1970 /5 series, to the end of production in 1995-1996. Changes over the years included a larger physical stator with more than one resistance value & change in the number of stator wire size and turns. There were several changes to the rotor diameter (by a very tiny amount) & wire size & number of turns. Each change to the rotor resulted in lower rotor electrical resistance. The diode board was modified for an extra connection in the 1974 transition period, and there were various types of voltage regulators; both early mechanical and later electronic types. The maximum alternator wattage output varied by model & year ....and, particularly with what parts are in any particular motorcycle, since most parts interchange physically and electrically (fully or partially). NOTE: substituting for the last version rotor in a system with an earlier higher ohms stator, is NOT ALWAYS a good idea, power output might suffer. The three phase stator windings are actually three separate windings, so there are SIX wires. These can be connected in a DELTA format, or a Y (WYE) format. Only in the Y (WYE) format can a CENTER-TAP be had, so all the Bosch stators are so connected.
(includes some troubleshooting & problems ...much more later in article)
The Authorities (Police) models, in general, begin charging at a slightly lower engine rpm; but the TOTAL MAXIMUM output is REDUCED. The Authorities voltage regulator is set to a higher voltage.
The final changes to the Airheads used slightly lower power output alternators; that is, instead of the 280 watt alternators, they had 240 watt alternators, but the charging began earlier, just like the Authorities models. The charging on later standard & Authorities models can be poor if the associated ROTOR is not the correct version. Otherwise, most any Bosch charging system alternator parts can be interchanged, and work 'quite adequately'.
The Airhead charging system consists of a three-phase alternator, a diode board for rectification of Alternating Current to Direct Current, a voltage regulator, the GEN lamp, the battery, and the Ignition switch and possibly a Kill switch. The voltage regulator (that controls alternator output) is NOT part of the alternator brush assembly, as it is in nearly all modern cars and motorcycles. The GEN lamp, before charging begins, is fed by current coming through the ignition switch from the battery. Models after the /5 had a KILL SWITCH located on the right side controls assembly on the handlebars. That switch is also in the circuit sending current to the GEN lamp. SOME riders never use that kill switch, so if you are having some problems, I suggest you move the kill switch back and forth half a dozen times and then see if your GEN lamp is working more properly. When you do testing on the system, you need the KILL switch centered ("ON" or "RUN" position). The Kill switch has been the cause for a few VERY rare instances of ignition problems, described later in this article.
The stock /5 had a 180 watt alternator, which can be upgraded to the 280 watt alternator by use of a very specific version of the early /6 alternator stator; which must be 105 mm in size. This will be found in the 1974 & some 1975 and possibly a few EARLY 1976. Some late 1974 & early 1975 models did have the larger 107 mm stator, which will NOT fit the stock /5 timing case. BMW incorporated the changed timing chest casting & went to the 107 mm larger stator at irregular times/models, perhaps until the stock of early cases using the 105 mm stator were used up. 105 mm 280 watt stators with a proper diode board work fine. The proper diode board has an extra terminal, a center-tap on the stator windings, and was standard from /6 onwards. The extra stator terminal is electrically called the WYE terminal, but most just use "Y" or 'center tap terminal".
You can use a /5 diode board with the 105 mm or 107 mm alternators, but it takes a /6 or later diode board with the extra diodes and the extra single wire connection to the stator ("Y"), to obtain the full wattage output that is possible.
The stator diameter (105 or 107 mm) is the measurement of the diameter of the stator metal portion that fits a short distance INTO the timing chest cavity.
BMW mounted the diode board on rubber mounts on some models. This was a bad idea, & was never done on all models. The following models come with metal mounts that are part of the timing chest casting and do NOT need to have 'solid diode board mounts' installed: /5; /6; 1978-1987 R65 and R80. Solid metal aftermarket mounts perform electrically much better, and may offer slight additional diode board cooling; and there is no rubber mountings to deteriorate. This is a VERY worthwhile upgrade. There is an article on this website about these mounts and the necessary wiring modifications: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/diodebds&grdgwires.htm
This article is NOT a substitute for Articles 14, 14A, 15A, 15B, 15E, 17, 18. This article is to be used in addition to those articles. >>> I WANT YOU to read ALL OF these articles ...and more ....!!!
You may also want to refer to one of the articles on the Airhead Voltage Regulators, etc.
Description of the Charging System:
The BMW Airhead charging system is the same; with only modest variations, on ALL models from the introduction of the 1970 /5 series, to the end of production in 1995-1996. Changes over the years included a larger physical stator with more than one resistance value & change in the number of stator wire size and turns. There were several changes to the rotor diameter (by a very tiny amount) & wire size & number of turns. Each change to the rotor resulted in lower rotor electrical resistance. The diode board was modified for an extra connection in the 1974 transition period, and there were various types of voltage regulators; both early mechanical and later electronic types.
The maximum alternator wattage output varied by model & year ....and, particularly with what parts are in any particular motorcycle, since most parts interchange physically and electrically (fully or partially). NOTE: substituting for the last version rotor in a system with an earlier higher ohms stator, is NOT ALWAYS a good idea, power output might suffer.
The three phase stator windings are actually three separate windings, so there are SIX wires. These can be connected in a DELTA format, or a Y (WYE) format. Only in the Y (WYE) format can a CENTER-TAP be had, so all the Bosch stators are so connected.
The tendency is to think of the various stock alternators as only 180 or 280 watts of output. Actually, outputs are specified at 180, 238 (R90S and Authorities), 240, 250, 280. The last of the Airheads had 240 watt alternators, very low ohm rotors, and charging began a slight bit lower in rpm than earlier models. That was a tradeoff; slightly lower rpm for beginning of any charging, but a lower maximum output. The R90S Rotor, and perhaps STATOR inside diameter was changed due to the rpm attainable on that model (actually, MUCH more likely because many were raced, as there are later Airhead models rated at 250 more maximum RPM), "said" to avoid the rotor from striking the stator laminations, due to crankshaft whipping. For practical non-racing purposes, any of the older rotors will work; and, in fact, I have not heard of a R90S with the larger rotor having any problems in up to and a bit past redline RPM. The Authorities model has the same 238 watt rating as the R90S; but, is designed to produce usable output at a slightly lower rpm than all the others, except the very last Airheads. Almost all alternator parts are physically interchangeable (the 105/107 mm stators being the exception). One might find almost any combination of parts when examining an Airhead charging system on any motorcycle. NOT all combinations are wise or will work properly. In general, the only low-charging problems that might occur is with the last rotors (2.8 ohms) if installed in earlier bikes.
As earlier described, the /5 model diode board did not have the extra diodes for the center-tap of the stator winding (there was no such center tap then), as did the /6 & all later. This is one of several reasons the /5 had a lower output. The /5 had a higher resistance rotor, 6.9 ohms, often just called the 7 ohm rotor. That higher resistance, compared to later rotors, was probably done to limit wear rate of the electrical contact points in the MECHANICAL Voltage Regulator.
The /5 era 7 ohm rotor can not be energized by the battery, nor by the alternator after charging begins, to as high a current as later models with lower resistance rotors. Thus, the magnetic field in the /5 rotor can never be as high as either of the two later rotors. It is actually a bit more complicated than that, as there is limited room in the rotor for the windings, and a compromise was made in wire size and number of turns, involving something called ampere-turns. Aftermarket alternator manufacturer's have solved the problems of those needing more alternator output, and outputs up to 600 watts rated with alternators mounted in the SAME ORIGINAL BMW MOUNTING HOLE ARE AVAILABLE. See the Omega alternators, here: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/AftrMrktAlt.htm
There are NO current regulators, only voltage regulators, in the Airhead alternators. Alternators are usually considered to be self-limiting for current output. The first voltage regulators on the Airheads were electro-mechanically operated, and located in a metal can. These had a mechanically adjustable relay, the contacts of which fed electrical current to the rotor. These contacts began to vibrate/oscillate open/closed as the battery voltage (actually, alternator output) reached the adjusted-for value. There are articles on all the regulators on this website ....including how to service/adjust the mechanical ones (the Electronics regulators will fit and work fine). The mechanical regulator was changed to an electronics type during the transition time to an electronic ignition, probably to eliminate electronic noise from the electrical-sparking at the mechanical regulator contacts. The first generation electronic regulator was in a somewhat similar metal can as was the earlier mechanical regulator, but the metal can was shorter. These METAL CAN electronic regulators were also adjustable, the adjustment being sealed by a droplet of rather tenacious sealing paint on them, but the regulators could be rather easily modified for full adjustability by removing the paint or replacing the tiny control. The last of the regulators were all in flat plastic boxes, fully transistorized, not made to be adjustable (although possible). These came in several varieties, the very last versions being slightly upgraded to better handle the possible increased rotor current of the 2.8 ohm rotors. All sorts of information on these various regulators are in separate articles on this website. Aftermarket regulators, adjustable and non-adjustable are available.
In the early 1980's, BMW had many problems with what was always said to be Wehrle brand diode boards. The truth is that some with Bosch names on them had the same problems. I have always suspected that the two brands traded parts between the factories, or there was a part-ownersip, or sub-contractor thing going on. BMW apparently thought that the problems were from vibration, and incorporated rubber mounts (generally in the /7 era), but the problem was NOT from vibration. Extra heat was in this area on the faired (RS and RT) models, making things worse. All of the problems were overheating at the too-short-length soldered wires at the 6 large power diodes, due to failure of those wires to be left long enough to be bent-over & soldered over a wide area. This is sort-of fixable. It is a difficult and labor intensive job to fix them by adding a tiny hole in the board & wrapping/soldering an extra piece of wire to the diode wire UNDER the board, and then to the top of the board. LONG ago, Oak published that method in AIRMAIL. It is NOT practical for most to even attempt this; I've done it, and don't want to, ever again.
What has been needed is a simple, easy (& cheap) method of repairing the overheated diode board solder joints at one or more of the 6 large diodes. I have done lasting repairs (so far!) by using a higher temperature type of solder on cleaned-up copper pads on the stock boards, no drilling nor added wires was done. That is what I would recommend, if your problem is one or more of those solder joints. You can VISUALLY see the problem, if present ...the soldered area discolors right through the coating. If you want to try an easy fix, this may work for you. Plumbers use a type of solder that is 50-50 mixture of tin and lead. You probably can get a few inches of 50-50 from a plumber. This type of solder comes as 0.125" round solid core. It must be used with standard rosin flux. The proposed fix on the diode boards is to use a very sharp Xacto or other knife blade, on QUITE A FLAT ANGLE, scraping away the outer colored coating all around the diode solder joint. You must be thorough, using the tip of the knife to get right to the edge of the wire. Do not scrape away the copper. If you want to first try chemical cleaning (which I DO SUGGEST), use a strong gel-type paint remover....it may clean up the coating nearly good enough. Clean it off, after it hopefully works to remove the enamel coating, with a small rag with water on it, and then Q-tips with home type isopropyl rubbing alcohol. The copper, with no enamel coating left, MUST be clean and shiny!! I go so far as to use a common pencil eraser (CLEAN!) to polish the copper to quite shiny, before soldering. You need to use common soldering flux of the rosin type. Liberal application is fine. Cleanup with common alcohol. AFAIK, 50-50 is sold only as a solid core...that is, it never comes with a flux core as does electronics 60/40 and other electronics solders. If you have access to other solders with considerably higher melting point temperatures than electronics 60/40, you can use that. I suggest you enlarge the soldering pad area on the diode board, clean off a goodly amount of the colored coating, so it is considerably larger; ...and it must be cleaned to be SHINY, to get a large and GOOD solder joint. The stub wire of the diode may need careful Xacto knife cleaning all around. It will not solder properly if it is not clean, all-around; this is critical! Leave a good sized amount of solder. Preparation is your friend here. A common large tip soldering iron can be used. I suggest one with a fairly substantial mass to its tip....as considerable heat amount is needed. Insufficient heat from a too-small soldering iron tip will NOT produce a good solder joint.
Nerdy: Replacing 1 or more large diodes, should one fail, is possible, but probably too expensive to seriously consider, considering the labor.... and cost to purchase a diode, ....and remove & replace it. It can be done, and you may be able to find the large size diodes at a good price; and can get a lot of satisfaction about DYI. It is also possible to replace any of the small diodes...that is typically easier. The information on diode part numbers, etc., is on this website, see articles # 14A and 15.
You could purchase a brand-new later board, or an aftermarket high power diode board. The stock board is certainly adequate ...contrary to a lot of false ideas & misleading statements. You might find an original diode board in very good condition ...for very low $, as they are often removed when still OK, during an installation of an aftermarket alternator.
The electronic regulator should be used on the 1981 & later bikes, as they have need for smoother, less spikey electrical noise due to the electronic ignition. The older mechanical regulator slowly deteriorates, & an electronic type can be substituted, whether the Bosch, Wehrle, or even a car type or better yet an aftermarket adjustable one. You can also service that mechanical regulator, article is on this website. Most any VR from a car that has the same three prongs and same case mounting, will work OK. I prefer modifying the early Bosch electronic regulator in the metal can, so the adjustment is easier to do (on this website in detail); or use an aftermarket adjustable regulator, from such as RockyPointCycle.com or euromotoelectrics.com. They have them quite reasonably priced. Also OK are the higher voltage non-adjustable types, usually 14.2 or 14.4 volts. The 14.2 +- volt regulators are better for your battery, as opposed to the original 13.8 volt types. DISregard those that say the headlights burn out quicker. It is true that the smaller bulbs will burn out quicker, but that is a quite SMALL effect. What IS true is that on a FLOODED battery, the higher voltage VR's do use a bit more water over time.
NERDY: There is some indication that the last version of the BMW-installed voltage regulators will handle the increased rotor current drawn by the later lower ohm rotors more reliably. Earlier regulators MAY hold up. Yes, if anal enough, you can modify earlier regulators to handle more current. That involves changing the power transistor to a higher rated type, and possibly increasing the heat dissipation method (probably NOT necessary). Interestingly, it is difficult to find the current rating of any of the VR's ....but the power transistor does have a part number and thus a rating for current, at various temperatures.The GEN lamp, necessary in the stock system to properly initiate charging, does not fail often. There is a modification that allows the system to start up even if the lamp fails (and possibly make a very slight improvement on rpm at which charging begins). It is on this website as article #19: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/genlampresistor.htm
How it all works:
This is where ALSO reading article 14A and 15A may particularly help in understanding.
****Article 14A has information on just exactly what 3 phases are, in sketch format: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/boxerelectrics.htm
When the ignition key is ON (start/run position), a small amount of electricity flows from the battery, through the ignition switch, then through the GEN lamp, & then to the D+ terminal of the voltage regulator (blue wire). In a motorcycle with a KILL switch, when ON (Run position) the electricity also flows through it. The GEN lamp internal resistance acts to limit the current & also gives you an indication by illuminating that the lamp is OK. This small current must travel to electrical ground in order to have the lamp illuminate. It does that by passing through the voltage regulator via its Df terminal (Blue-black); then to the Df terminal at the brush holder for the rotor. The electricity goes through one carbon brush into the rotor via the rotor slip ring....& then out the rotor via the other slip ring, through the other brush, to the brush D- terminal, to the engine ground (which is the same as the battery negative (-) terminal, electrically-speaking). The connection to ground is made doubly, by the mechanical connection of the D- terminal (it does 'look' insulated), & the brown wire going to it, which goes to the voltage regulator. This makes a "complete circuit" in electrical-speak, & the small current now produces a TINY magnetic field in the rotor. The GEN lamp is LIT brightly.
A proper and correct circuit sketch is below. One sketch, somewhat similar, was published at http://www.buchanan1.net/charge.html but that sketch has ERRORS! DO NOT use the buchanan1.net sketch, nor his page. Long ago I had a corrected version of Buchanan's in this article via link. I removed it, gave up trying to get him to fix his. As of 01/03/2017, my most recent check, Buchanan's errors were STILL not fixed, after MANY YEARS of him knowing about them. HIS sketch, similar to the one below one, is NOT CORRECT!! USE THE ONE BELOW!
The following sketch originally came from http://www.thunderchild-design.com/images/charg1.gif
When the engine is started the rotor is rotating as it is fastened to the end of the crankshaft. The rotor's rotating magnetic field induces a magnetic field in the non-moving STATOR windings. Thus, rotor magnetic field is transformed into Alternating Current electricity in the non-moving stator windings. Certain small diodes on the diode board change the A.C. electricity into Direct Current electricity, which is then applied to the same input side of the voltage regulator that the GEN lamp feeds. With enough rpm to have approximately +12 volts at that point, the lamp extinguishes, as it has approximately +12 volts on one side of the lamp (from the battery), & approximately same +12 volts on the other side of the lamp, & thus no voltage difference across the lamp. These small diodes, as rpm increases, produce a VERY considerably larger current than the lamp could supply to the regulator. That larger current is needed to fully power the rotor. Thus, the system can be thought of as a merry-go-round, supplying itself, once initiated by the battery-fed lamp current, & enough rpm to produce enough current from the small diodes. The system converts mechanical movement into usable electricity.
Nerdy: If the lamp was replaced by something of much lower resistance, even a piece of wire, then when the rpm was lower than that necessary to produce usable battery/system alternator output, the VR would pass current into the rotor, and drain the battery. A considerable current is possible, as much as 4 amperes, and it would unnecessarily also heat the rotor.
There are six large high power diodes mounted on the diode board. They connect to the stator main output windings, the same as do the smaller diodes. As the rpm rises just a bit more than for lamp-extinguishing, these large six diodes will begin to pass a fair amount of current, but their output connection is directly to the battery. These 6 large diodes consist of 3 positive & 3 negative as far as the internals of the diodes are concerned. More on those 6 diodes in the next paragraph.
The diode board connections (via printed copper 'wires') have 3 of those large diodes connected to the chassis (negative side of battery). The other 3 large diodes connect to the battery + terminal output of the diode board. The + charging output of the diode board is the large spade terminal on the right side of the board as you face it from the front of the motorcycle.That connection-wire is NOT FUSED. The extremely high resistance of the diodes (if current tries to flow in the reverse direction) prevents the battery from discharging back into the alternator when the engine is not running (key on or off). The same system is used in most cars & trucks. There actually is a TEENSY bit of "leakage current" (usually under a milliampere or so). If diodes fail by 'leaking' considerably more current, the battery CAN discharge, over time, from that. Leaky diodes can also cause strange effects on waveform and other things, which I will not get into in this article. Leakage current can be measured at that same + output terminal of the board, by putting a current-reading meter in SERIES between the mentioned terminal and the red to-battery wire that you pulled off it. You could also put such a meter into the battery negative wire circuit at the battery, and then check the meter with the + wire ONTO that diode board terminal, and also when pulled off of it ....and compare readings. However that method will include any other current flow from the system, including a clock, etc. Either testing method can be used; but best to do it at the diode board connection. The electronic type of voltage regulator (VR) has an internal voltage reference called a Zener diode. The regulator receives the output of the SMALL diodes as previously described, and compares that to the VR internal reference zener diode (mechanical regulator does this with spring and solenoid coil which then operate the points). When the alternator output voltage rises higher than the design voltage, the voltage regulator reduces the current flow into the rotor, which reduces the stator output. The VR is NOT a shunt type, that is, the alternator output is not shunted to ground, thus the regulation method is of high efficiency.
The mechanical regulator regulates by separating two contacts in the regulator to reduce the charging. Separation of those contacts occurs as voltage rises enough & thus increases the mechanical relay's magnetic field in its coil enough to cause the contacts to open, which turns the rotor current OFF (or reduces, considerably but not entirely, the rotor current, depending on the type of mechanical regulator). The contacts close again at ~the regulation set voltage. This on/off of the contacts tends to happen fairly fast. While maintaining the voltage the regulator was set for, the VR must turn on and off rapidly, once the battery voltage reaches the desired set voltage, to maintain the voltage within a narrow range. The VR points spark gently during this actual oscillating voltage regulation. This produces some electrical noise into the wiring ...as well as deteriorating the regulator's points, although slowly. The later low ohms rotors are not good for the mechanical regulator (which was not used after the 1970's), as the rotor could draw more current than the mechanical regulator points were designed for. The VR can be serviced, article on this website.
The electrical system in any of the Airheads is adequate and reliable if the system is maintained to reasonably good condition. Those with much higher electricity needs may OR MAY NOT need a larger output alternator. There is way too much hype and misrepresentation, and downright lies about all the items in the charging system. The /5 180 watt system is adequate for the later 55/60 watt headlight (original was 40/45 watts) & maybe a few smaller lights ...AND a 50 watt heated vest....but this is the limit for practical purposes. It is marginal with extra electrical needs if you do considerable in-city stop and go traffic. The 238 watt to 280 watt stock Bosch alternator systems are adequate and reliable for more accessories, than the 180 watt system in the /5. The problems I see are poor connections and old age, just normal things, that regular maintenance on any system would be all that was required. Ask on the Airheads LIST; and, read the various articles on this website; particularly the article, link at the end of this paragraph, that compares the Bosch alternator output with the aftermarket alternators. Be careful that you THINK deeply about those whose business might be trying to sell something, and THINK about those who have already installed $$$ aftermarket items or whole systems, because they DO have psychological reasons to tell you how great they are. If you have special needs, such as for a vastly increased wattage, or in-town charging capability, that MIGHT be important in your consideration of modifications. Be careful, as 'upgrades' may NOT be! Caveat Emptor! http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/altcapability.htm
Poor charging can come from quite a few reasons, OFTEN from more than one reason at the same time, which makes finding the problem(s) more involved.One of the first things to do is to make sure the battery, even if new or near new, is TESTED, using a LOAD TESTER, to be OK. It is vitally important that the battery be good, and that there is no hidden corrosion up inside the large diameter cable that fastens (tightly!) to the battery + terminal. The best test for the battery is by an instrument called a load tester. You can purchase one from Harbor Freight (the TWO meter version is fine for testing bike and car batteries). You could also just charge the battery fully, then try to crank the engine for 10 seconds or so, without starting the engine, and monitoring the battery terminals (NOT the connections) with a digital voltmeter. This is not as good as a formal load testing, but is usually adequate. With the float bowls empty, & gas off (or, ignition PRIMARY connections DISconnected), the engine will not start, which is what you want for a load test. Do not remove the spark plugs ....you want engine compression to make the starter motor work reasonably hard for this test.
Then, check that any and all connections, including the big battery wires, are clean, tight, no strands of wire are broken. When you have the front cover of the engine removed (ALWAYS disconnect the battery negative leads before trying to remove the cover), you can eyeball and feel-test the stator connections, those push-on connections need to fit quite tightly. You can check at the RIGHT larger spade terminal of the diode board (as you face the alternator from in front of the engine) to be sure the fairly large red wire and its female connector are tight, not burned, & that the stranded wires into that connector are intact and properly & securely crimped into the connector ...wiggle to make sure. Be sure that under the starter motor cover that the connections to the starter solenoid switch are all tight. Be sure that the red wires at the starter relay (located along the motorcycle backbone tube, under the fuel tank) are CLEAN AND TIGHT. If you have a plug-in starter relay, UNplug it, then clean the male and female connectors as best you can, then re-plug-in the relay. Everything in the alternator area should look good, including the diode board. You may want to read the following article:
What fails? Anything and everything has failed at one time or another.
Troubleshooting a dead (not lighted or does so irregularly) GEN lamp:
The problem may not be a bad lamp. The GEN lamp seldom burns out. Sometimes there is a crack in the socket area where the lamp fits. A bad connection for the lamp can include at the lamp base, the pod plug connection, or inside the external pod plug itself. More often the rotor has opened electrically; or a brush, or both brushes, are very badly worn. Worn brushes frequently cause problems, but usually the lamp is then intermittent, especially with rotor RPM. The reason rotor RPM is involved is that there is always some slip ring runout, which varies with RPM ....so typically one brush, worn more than the other, gets intermittent in its contact with the slip ring.
Here are some simple tests:
Turn on Ignition ....GEN lamp should still NOT be lighted, hopefully, as this is easier to check out. For a /6 or later motorcycle, wiggle, a bit, the umbilical cord that goes into the back of the instrument pod. If the GEN lamp lights up, the problem is in the plug, or, the mating male parts in the pod. Assuming the lamp still does NOT light up: Turn off the ignition. Disconnect battery (removing all the wires to the negative post will do). Remove front-of-engine metal cover. Reconnect battery. Turn on ignition. GEN lamp should be the same as before; NOT lighted.
Connect a jumper wire from the brush holder Df terminal to the case. You can also use a screwdriver to do the jumpering. If the lamp now lights-up, then the problem is in the rotor, brushes or brush wires. To determine which, remove the jumper wire or screwdriver. Use a copper penny or a screwdriver, etc., and short the two slip rings together...be careful that you only connect one slip ring to the other, and are not touching the case meta. If the lamp lights up the ROTOR IS OPEN AND BAD.
Assuming the lamp does NOT light up, from any of those above things you tried:
You have a bad voltage regulator, or bad wiring or connections in the lamp circuit.
How to determine if the voltage regulator is bad:
Turn off the ignition. Remove the fuel tank. Be sure the D- and Df connections at the brushes assembly are connected. UNplug the voltage regulator. It has a three female connection plug. You may have to press at a side-clip to allow its harness plug to be removed. Turn on the ignition. Center position on Kill switch. Ground the solid BLUE female connection wire in the voltage regulator's harness socket. To 'ground' means to connect a wire from the socket having the blue wire, to any shiny metal place ...the cylinder fins are a good place. If the lamp does NOT light up, the wiring from the VR to the pod or its large rear plug, or internal wiring or lamp or lamp connection in the pod is at fault. If it lights...then go to the next step:
Assuming the lamp DOES light up:
Remove the grounding wire you just added. Jumper the OPPOSING female connections in the plug. Usually this is blue/black and blue. DO NOT jumper to the brown wire. If the GEN light now lights up, you have a bad regulator. If you would like to test the system maximum possible output, you can leave that jumpering in the plug, and start the engine and monitor the battery voltage as you raise RPM. Don't let the voltage get over 14.9.
Do NOT forget to disconnect the battery before replacing the front cover.
Troubleshooting a constantly on GEN lamp: If, when your ignition key is ON & the GEN lamp goes ON brightly, but it usually never goes out or only fades a bit when the engine is revv'd up, it usually indicates NO charging, or very little charging. A number of things can cause this, & there are various approaches to figuring out the problem. While you can use a test lamp if you know how to analyze things with it, use of a multimeter is probably easier, and you need to know how to use one. Read my article on them:
http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/multimeters.htm.That article covers both multimeters AND test lamps usage. You can possibly obtain a digital multimeter for FREE from Harbor Freight Company...they often give out quite adequate and accurate ones for FREE, upon ANY sale. Otherwise, they sell them for a variety of prices, depending on a lot of factors, almost always the price is LOW.
From the /6 to end of production there is a flexible printed circuit board inside the old-style instrument pod that the GEN lamp fits into. It can get microscopic cracks, and the lamp connection to the board can fail. You can carefully repair the board....or replace it (IF you can find a replacement!.....new ones NLA from BMW, but see KatDash on the Internet). Do NOT yank lamps out roughly.....press on the printed material with a fingertip & rock the lamp out carefully. Starter relay:
(The one under the fuel tank, NOT the big solenoid relay at the starter motor)
You are probably asking yourself: HUH?...why talk about the starter relay??...isn't this is an article about troubleshooting problems with the alternator (and charging system)??
>>> Some common problems at the starter relay cause complaints of an electrically dead motorcycle ....yet the battery is charged and tests good, as do the battery cables.
The reason for the small starter relay causing problems (total lack of system power is the common complaint) is that all the power in the motorcycle (except for the starter power itself, which will NOT energize with this relay problem) travels through a jumper connection INSIDE that relay (from 1976). While the rare internal connection has failed, often annoyingly an intermittent failure because of a loose internal rivet or some such, MORE often the problem is one or two poor connections AT the SPADE CONNECTORS OR SCREW CONNECTIONS at that relay and its socket. Early models were screw terminals, and the relay terminals end was UP, and water (or brake fluid from a leaky under-tank master cylinder) would get into the relay due to imperfect sealing, and make a mess inside that relay. When the jumpering or corroded (even slightly) connections (or internal corrosion) at this relay are at fault, you may have a completely dead (electrically) motorcycle. UNPLUG and re-plug in the relay, wiping the connections; on the screw type, remove the guts and inspect.
From 1976, most Airheads have a major connection of the battery to the electrical system
located at the starter relay under the fuel tank. The red wires are ALL connected together via the relay INTERNALS. On the metal can starter relays you can often carefully UNcrimp the edges & fix the internals; but, that is a rarer fault than corrosion of the male spades of the relay & the female socket connectors. If the problem is internal to the relay, you can try to fix it, & I recommend you SEAL the top after re-crimping it. There have also been instances of a slightly loose rivet inside this relay causing problems. The problem commonly seen is a major total complete lack of electrical power. Total loss of electric power is because the INTERNALS of the relay, even if the relay is NOT being actuated for the starter motor, have that 'jumper function'. If the battery voltage is OK, yet the lights are turned-on but do not light-up (usually the starter motor will not actuate either), you may have a relay plug/socket problem, or a problem inside the relay. Probing with a voltmeter will tell you if power is at all red wires at the starter relay, or not. A test lamp will also work for testing. Similar symptom can occur (of course!) if the very large battery wires which bolt to the battery are faulty, perhaps eaten away by battery acid (happens; at + connection), etc. The starter relay has RED wires going to it. Those wires pass 100% of the bike's electrical power (except the much larger wire at the + battery terminal that goes
directly to the starter motor). The red wires at the starter relay go to different starter relay connections. A temporary (?) & QUICK fix, if the external spade connections are the problem, is to UNplug the relay & plug it back in. That wipes the spades. That almost always works, might even last. It is helpful to use tiny tools and try to clean the female connection in the plug, and to lightly abrade the relay's male spades, before reinstalling. You can use silicone dielectric grease or even Vaseline on these during re-plugging-in; it helps protect against environmental things that caused the original corrosion. If the corrosion is very visible and nasty you will have to install new female connections. There is a modification that can help. Used with relatively brightly cleaned male and female spade connections, this will likely be a 100% permanent FIX! First, on all three RED wires, determine a place near the plug socket where you can CAREFULLY remove ~3/4" of the red insulation from the wires adjacent to each other. I suggest you use a very sharp thin blade on a very flat angle. I use a hobbyists Xacto knife. DO NOT nick/cut any copper strands. The copper wires MUST be clean and shiny, if not, make them so. Tightly wrap some shiny copper wire around the removed insulation area. I usually use soldering braid or de-soldering braid to join the wires, but a wrap of common lamp cord (insulation removed! and the wires look shiny, not corroded from age) will do. Solder the wrapped connection using 60-40 common electronics solder (the type with a rosin core). You may have to add more rosin from a separate container. Be SURE to use a large mass type of soldering tip on your soldering iron. A high power soldering gun also works. I've even used a propane torch soldering tip (BUT, you must very carefully avoid side-flame damage). Do a clean & neat job. INSULATE the result with electrical tape or self-sealing tape. Additional charging system failures; further discussion:
There are NO problems caused by this external jumpering, if done neatly.
1. Batteries: Battery failures cause an enormous amount of problems & indications. Batteries lose capacity over time. That in itself is usually not a problem, as we normally do not operate many hours of accessories with the engine off. Of course, if severely enough discharged, the starter motor will not have sufficient current to rotate the engine properly. One type of failure is a full separation....or part separation...of a connection inside the battery. The battery will act as if there is a resistance inserted in series, & may even charge up to the correct voltage at the battery terminals, yet be unable to properly crank the engine. This is typically confirmed by first measuring the battery terminal voltage with the ignition off. Then, with ignition and lights on, & re-measure the battery terminal voltage when attempting to crank the engine. The starter may not crank at all, or you will hear just a simple clunk, or small click noise. With a bad battery, the voltage will drop off a huge amount. You can also use a formal Load Tester on the battery for confirmation, after trying to fully charge the battery. In some instances, once the engine IS started and run, the battery MAY seem to act OK ....until the next cold startup. It is somewhat rare, but I have seen batteries that were temperature sensitive, regarding the opening & closing of an internal connection.
Additional charging system failures; further discussion:
Another common failure is a shorted cell, usually only one fully shorts; but, it can be partial for one or more cells. The battery MAY never charge up to proper voltage. If this is seen when using an EXternal charger with a voltmeter attached, the battery can be considered worthless, and must be replaced. IF partial, the battery might charge up to the correct voltage, yet after standing a half hour or hour, have its 'open terminal' voltage fall towards 12, rather than maybe 12.5 to 12.7. Falling from 12.6 or so, to closer to 12, is also seen when the headlight is turned-on, perhaps quickly after what seems like a full charging. That battery should be discarded.
There are dynamic battery testers at most repair shops, that can USUALLY determine if a battery has the proper cranking power...and LIFE left. These are usually called Battery Load Testers. You can get your own at a quite reasonable price from Harbor Freight Company. I test all my vehicles' batteries once or twice a year, and, yes, with a Harbor Freight Company Load tester. I suggest you purchase the slightly more expensive version type which has TWO METERS. It is much more versatile and works great. It is on sale now and then, and you may be lucky & combine it with a 20% off coupon! Really worth the $50-$80 you will pay. A load test at about 90 amperes (YOU get to set the load current on the two meter model!) on the 28 or 30 AH batteries (and 70 on the smaller batteries), while watching the battery voltage, is about correct for the Airhead batteries. The load test is done by reading the voltage accurately at ~15 seconds of loading time. That time is done AUTOMATICALLY by the HF 2-meter model. That HF unit is ADJUSTABLE to match battery capacity size! There is a chart available for the lower voltage limit, versus temperature ....and the load tester comes with the chart and it is printed on the meter, and in good, no-good, colors.
It is possible for a quite poor/bad starter motor to 'pull' or 'draw' so much current from the battery, that the battery appears faulty. While any well-used & worn starter motor can exhibit this problem, it is especially egregious on early Valeo starters (which were installed by BMW
instead of the Bosch starters, in the later eighties) in which the permanent magnet pole pieces, which were glued in place, came loose and mechanically locked up the starter. The Bosch starters are better designed & constructed; the Bosch are easily re-buildable anyplace ...they are nearly 100% interchangeable, but the Bosch needs the forward end support plate, and the early versions were 8 teeth, later versions 9 teeth, to match a change in flywheels...and you MUST use the correct number of teeth version (for ANY starter motor, including the Valeo). Late model Valeo starters are OK, and draw less current than the Bosch while providing MORE cranking power.
http://www.Euromotoelectrics.com has them reasonably priced....see my references page: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/references.htm.
They also have parts to repair Bosch and Valeo starters. There are also other sources for starters. No matter what starter you install, be sure it has the proper 8 or 9 tooth drive gear. Be sure to read my article on installation (even if the SAME type starter you are replacing), as there has been some slight metal interference problems, EASILY fixed. Here is a link to my article covering the various starters, including aftermarket ones like the Valeo & Denso ....and the fitting problems:
2. Diode board, rubber mounts, brush-holders, etc: On those models with rubber diode board mounts, the mounts will eventually deteriorate, allowing the diode board to fall downward & possibly causing shorting or other problems. In MY OPINION all rubber mounted diode board models should have the diode board mounts changed to all-metal. Not only is reliability improved, but grounding, output, & voltage regulation is improved too. There is some evidence that the diode boards stay a bit cooler and are more reliable. Rubber mounts are a BAD IDEA!
The Airheads that already should have solid metal diode board mounts cast into the timing chest (check your bike, no matter the model, as I have seen anomalies) are: /5 models; /6 models; 1978-1987 R65 and R80 models.
The RS and RT models are particularly prone to diode board problems. Do your bike a favor; install the inexpensive aftermarket diode board solid mounts if you have rubber mounts. Available from Euromotoelectrics; Motorrad Electrik; & Thunderchild. It is a good idea to add openings/louvers in the front lower plastic cover that is in front of the engine, on ANY models using it (RS/RT). Early ones had no louvers; later ones did; that change improved cooling air to the outer timing chest (where the alternator is located).
Oak Okleshen published an extensive article on testing the diode board using a transformer and lamp, in the Club publication, AIRMAIL. June 1999 was a most comprehensive article, but there are many others. You can purchase his Airtech Index: email@example.com
Information on testing using the transformer and lamp method is also on this website, but see the next paragraph......
Diodes are often tested
Once in awhile I hear of someone installing solid mounts; or, for some other reason, they have had the diode board out of the bike, & when replaced, there is no charging. They have probably miss-wired at the rear of the diode board.
No charging, and a bright GEN lamp, can come from improperly re-assembling the rotor connections' white-colored brush connection block....the insulating washers must be properly assembled at the Df terminal.
Over the years there have been various problems with diode boards, grounding, the rubber mounts, etc. Read the article on the diode boards and grounding wires: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/diodebds&grdgwires.htm
Read the other electrical articles on this website....#14, #15, #15-A, 17, 18, etc.3. Voltage Regulator: Usually a failure means an opening of the series pass transistor (electronic versions of the regulator) and no output/charging. Rarely the series pass transistor short-circuits, or there is some other electronics failure ...and the indication can be vastly too high charging voltage at high rpm.
4. Stators: Stators seldom fail unless abused. Abuse is usually nicking or otherwise injuring the wires (or the special steel laminations) during stator/housing removal. Due to the low resistance windings, common non-lab versions of ohmmeters tests on the three phases themselves are not usually or always indicative. HOWEVER: There must be no continuity to ground from any stator terminal (stator disconnected from anything else, including, of course, the diode board). There is a difference in the resistance of the windings after 1990, but this is mostly a point of nerdy discussion, unless you are trying to use an earlier higher resistance rotor with a 1990+ stator, or the reverse .....both of which can cause lowered charging. Stator failure means low output, low charging. Nicking/scratching across the steel laminations can reduce output slightly too.
The group of three connection wires to the 3 spades connection area of the stator can be in any order. Some models have a molded plug for all 3 wires. Typically, a large failure involves a shorted turn or a grounded stator. The shorted-turn failure can be very tricky to analyze, because while an openly visible shorted turn can usually be seen, typically from those using screwdrivers to pry the stator from the engine when changing brushes, etc,... the resistance measurement may not show any difference between phases, on common ohmmeters. Some types of tests used would include precision ohmmeter tests, but I find them to take too much time AND, often NOT really good tests. Instead, a simple A.C. connection to a transformer and then reading all three phase voltages is a GOOD test. Other tests would be using an oscilloscope (revealing even when the system is still mounted in the bike, and running the engine); and A.C. ammeter tests. Over-all, the simplest and most revealing test of a stator is the transformer method. It can be used with an oscilloscope; or, just a voltmeter.
For MOST of you, sophisticated tests are not likely to be possible; nor, understood. I will list some tests, just below, that can be done by anyone. These tests can be done with the system on the bike, with the phases (& center-tap on /6 and later), disconnected from the harnesses to the stator:
a. Do these ohmmeter tests, between phases, & to ground; engine OFF. Short the ohmmeter leads together solidly, subtract the meter indication from the readings you get from connecting the ohmmeter test leads solidly to every combination of the three output spades of the stator. The stators are typically 0.62 ohms per phase connection. If you test the center-tap terminal, the values between that center tap & any of the three main phases will be ~HALF the phase to phase value. The resistances are hard to read accurately, & hence only gross changes or differences may mean anything.NOTE that between any phase connection and CHASSIS should be infinite, or in very high millions of ohms.
5. Rotors: Rotors commonly fail, they rotate fast & have large inertial & centripetal forces on the windings when you do up & down shifting, as rpm change can be abrupt. I have theorized that some more abrupt types of clutch use & more abrupt shifting of gears can cause very high reversing forces on the rotors, particularly susceptible will be the old non-epoxy impregnated ones. Rotors are in an area that gets quite hot, & the current flowing into the rotor plus the transformation of the magnetic field adds more heat ....and thus there are heat-cycling effects. Same can be said for the diode board, which is susceptible over the long term to this type of heat cycling effect. In the rotor, its wires are soldered to the slip rings. Solder joints can fail. Original rotors were sealed with a type of varnish, and are not as good as later rotors that might have been sealed and protected with high temperature epoxy (hopefully by vacuum impregnation). Non-impregnated wires can move about from vibration & centripetal and inertial forces & be damaged. Rotors usually fail by OPEN circuit, and a simple
ohmmeter test across the slip rings will identify that. A rotor can work (or sort-of) at low or high rpm, and then not at another rpm. GEN lamp indications can be erratic with rpm too, signifying an opening &
closing of the rotor internal connections. It is possible to use an ohmmeter on a rotor (at the D- and Df brush-holder connections) with the engine running over a range of rpm, with the rotor D- and Df connections disconnected, but there can be meter complications, so I suggest you NOT do that.
Once in a while a rotor will short circuit between turns of the wire, and this may or may not be such that an ohmmeter can show a short. Another form of rotor shorting is slightly different and more commonly seen (although still relatively rare): one wire on many (not all) rotors passes through the rotor steel core through a small hole (some rotors are being made with the wire NOT going through a hole) a place for short circuits if the rotor is not very carefully assembled. The ohmmeter WILL then show a short to the rotor steel frame. To properly test for this whilst the rotor is in place on the motorcycle, you must slide a piece of paper under both brushes. I have seen rewound rotors improperly tested before sale, that were shorted to the steel of the rotor.
Rotors are easy to remove, but you MUST use a HARDENED factory, or HARDENED home-made or aftermarket tool. SOME home-made tools are NOT safe to use. I suggest purchase of the factory one piece tool OR an aftermarket ONE PIECE tool. If you want to make a tool, DO NOT USE A COMMON SOFT BOLT. 8.8 is the minimum specification!! Under NO circumstances should you use a common automotive 'legs' type of remover tool, nor a NON-hardened bolt!!!
The BMW-sold tool is 88-88-6-123-600. You can get an equivalent tool from aftermarket suppliers.They are NOT expensive. You can make a tool from 8.8 bolts and a roller bearing ....ask on the Airheads LIST, and see in the photo below. I am NOT in favor of this two-piece tool method ....due to the possibility of wrong use, INCLUDING canting of the inner part, causing you HUGE problems. Because of the potential problems, I do NOT APPROVE that sort of tool.
RARE situation, a reverse magnetized rotor: THE THEORY:
Brushes are a medium-hard conductive carbon material and wear slowly. When a brush is worn short enough, the snail spring (that presses the brush against the rotor's copper slip ring) will bottom-out on the plastic brush holder, and there is no longer any ...or only slight ...brush pressure against the rotor. You may have strange indications on the GEN lamp ...it may seem to light up properly, it may not light up properly, it may not light up at all. Lighting-up may be rpm sensitive. If the slip rings show approximately the proper resistance, yet the resistance measurement at the brushes themselves (Df to D-) is more than ~3/4 of an ohm higher, the brushes are likely not contacting properly; and a physical inspection is needed. It is relatively easy to check the forward-most brush by a visual inspection for length. Brushes last ~80,000 +- miles .... depending on the dust in the atmosphere, amount of wattage normally used, etc.
At just the right amount of wear, the very very slight sideways wobble of the rotor and/or very slight non-concentricity of the slip rings themselves, while the engine is running (at some particular rpm area usually), will allow the brushes to either contact .....or not contact ....causing an irregular GEN lamp and strangely irregular charging.
SEE article #17: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/altbrushrotor.htm
NOTE: This happens, now and then. You replace the brushes; then zero charging! You probably removed the brush holder assembly, & failed to reassemble the insulating washers correctly. The D- terminal is grounded to the case, the Df is insulated from the case, even though an exterior first glance shows them identical (later models have metal posts, not any washers, or only one, for the D-). You ALSO MIGHT have put the two push-on wires on the wrong terminals. BROWN is ALWAYS ground, which is D-. If you reverse the brush terminal connectors, the alternator will not work, but the GEN lamp will stay illuminated! Possibly you can injure the VR. You do NOT have to disassemble the brush holder mounting for a brush replacement job.
A brush rarely has a flexible wire break, that braided wire connects to the holder terminal, sometimes invisibly. You can pull a SLIGHT bit on the wire, as if to pull the brush out of the holder, slightly, to see if the wire is intact. When the wire breaks it is usually from a poor soldering job, where solder 'wicks' up the braid, and stiffens it.
A small booklet on the airhead charging system, but quite adequate, especially for troubleshooting, with illustrations and practical advice, is available from Motorrad Elektrik. http://www.motoelekt.com (256) 442-8886 Revisions: Last edit of THIS page:
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A very complete largish, thick, book, written by OAK, on the entire electrical system of all the models from somewhat before the /5, to the end of production, is obtainable from the Chicago Airheads Club. This contains all the schematic diagrams of the entire bike systems, as well as very detailed individual parts and systems drawings, schematics, descriptions and operations, etc. This book is really a training manual, and contains some troubleshooting information. I consider it a must-have item. See my page http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/url.htm, subsection BMW Electrics, regarding this book.
There is a critique of it on this website, 14B: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/chitechelmnl.htm
final release: 01-03-2004
11-14-2005: Add hyperlink for additional schematic.
02/23/2009: Added some clarification to rotors and stators.
05/09/2009: Recheck, fix minor typos and clarify a few details.
11/21/2009: Review and update entire article.
08/13/2010: Review and minor updates, mostly for clarity.
01/15/2011: Add the Thunderchild gif, modify information about Buchanan's page.
09/18/2012: Greatly expand section on testing the stators. Add QR code. Modify Google code. In entire article add material & update things.
05/13/2013: Go over article. No substantive changes, but eliminate some redundancies and add some clarity here and there.
06/15/2013: Add first section, troubleshooting the dead GEN lamp. Remove language button later, due to problems with some browsers.
09/08/2014: Clarify a few details, clean up for narrower screens.
11/05/2014: Entire article: Simplify some testing for ease in understanding & speed. Edit article as needed for clarity. Update sources, links, etc.
01/18/2015: Add section on rotor magnetization; which came from a response I did on the Airheads LIST.
07/07/2015: Add new section on gen lamp always on, clean up some of the rest of the article (more should be done, when I get to it....).
12/27/2015: Go through entire article. Clarify many details & add many. Narrow the article, including adding more left edge justification(s) and increasing font size. Update meta-codes. Update the alternator sketch so /5 era version is more clearly shown as to details on Y and diodes.
04/25/2016: Go through entire article. Clarify many details and add more hyperlinks. Update metacodes; fonts, layout, etc.
01/05/2017: Metas, scripts, colors, fonts, horizontal lines, excessive HTML, sketch details for current flow direction & a.c. on 4 connections. Re-arrange locations within the article on a few things. Improve clarity. re-released.
01/30/2017: Add 4f.
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A small booklet on the airhead charging system, but quite adequate, especially for troubleshooting, with illustrations and practical advice, is available from Motorrad Elektrik. http://www.motoelekt.com (256) 442-8886 Revisions: Last edit of THIS page:
Monday, January 30, 2017
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Last edit of THIS page: Monday, January 30, 2017